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Most of the info in this thread Stolen From: TheVille.Org - Hints and Tips for playing TF2

- You can tell what level a sentrygun is by listening to how fast it beeps. The higher the level, the faster it beeps.

- If you're playing defense near your team's engineers, keep an ear out for the engineers yelling out that their equipment is getting sapped. If you're nearby and you act quickly, you'll be able to spot and kill the spy responsible while the engineers scramble to save their equipment.



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Heavy

- When you right click with the Heavy's minigun it starts spinning without firing so you can prepare to attack faster.

- You can right click with the Heavy's melee to punch with his right hand and left click to punch with his left, occaisionally throwing an uppercut(Critical hit).

- A good way to catch your opponent off guard is to jump around a corner and start winding up your gun in midair. Right after you land, you'll start shooting.

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- When using your team's teleports, blue/red essence will be flowing from you for about 5 seconds. So remember to wait for it to go away if you're a spy!

- As a disguised spy if you see an enemy medic yell out for assistance. Not only will he heal you if you're injured, but you'll look more convincing to the rest of his team if they see you paired up. When you yell for a medic when you are disguised, it will show up in their chat as the person you are imitating calling for the medic.

- As a spy, you can be healed by the enemy team's dispensers.

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- Jump on top of your dispenser or sentry to reach higher levels in the area to build sentries or teleporter exits in safer/more strategic areas.
- As an engineer, press secondary fire to rotate any blueprint you may have out. Your teleport exit also has a direction people will exit it from, its located on the blue print (look for the arrow). Rotate the exit so people are facing the action, not away from it.


From: TheVille.Org - Hints and Tips for playing TF2

* While there are some situations where cowering behind your sentry wrenching it is a good idea (namely when an uber heavy is shooting at it), it is much more effective to keep moving, all the time. Never stand still. Never walk more than 10 meters without sidestepping or spinning. I always keep moving, even when upgrading a sentry or repairing it.

* Roam with your shotgun, keeping some distance between you and the sentry. this way enemies have to fight two enemies that can dish out significant hurt and the sentry will severely limit their movement.

* More often than not, enemies concentrating on getting rid of a sentry are open to being flanked wit the shotgun.

* Dispensers make great blocks for doors. Anyone jumping over them is usually a spy since friendly people can walk through them. Also, few spies can resist zapping a dispenser at a chokepoint, immediately blowing their disguise.

* If there are a lot of teleporters on your team, anyone walking from the spawn is probably a spy. shoot them.

* The shotgun is quite powerful even at mid range. Use it. (1/3rd of my engineer kills are shotgun kills)

* Don't reload your shotgun in close quarter battles, use q to switch to handgun and keep firing.

* Don't engage people with the wrench if you're not repairing at the same time or out of ammo on the shotgun. Spies often get lucky with frontal backstabs and other classes have more capable melee weapons.

* Any building makes for great advance warning system. Putting them in certain spots (such as behind the house on the second dustbowl map) will often give you advance warnings about spies zapping them (... and subsequently getting killed because they gave away their presence in a narrow passage...).

* An ubered heavy can not take down a sentry that you are repairing while hiding behind it, provided you have enough metal. Just keep repairing and eventually their uber runs out and the sentry chunks them.

* While there are 'premium locations' for sentries that provide best protection for your teams cap points, putting a sentry in unexpected locations where you never saw anyone put one often results in a large number of surprise kills.

* After a while, people know your sentry and either mount a coordinated effort to take it down or avoid it. Unless you're in a vital spot with it (cap defense) or really trying for sentry points, move it somewhere else after a while. Works great on maps with two path to the cap as scouts will have gotten used to their 'free route' and will feed your sentry. Especially on close quarter maps like 2Fort, there is nearly an infinite amount of possible sentry locations that can score 2-3 surprise kills for free.

* Engineers in sudden death are vulnerable to instant kills by spies and snipers, destroying their sentries in process. An engineer alone usually won't stop the enemy when outnumbered in sudden death, especially not when sitting around as a stationary target behind his sentry. I usually avoid engineer in sudden death and go demoman or spy instead, gives you a better chance at stopping the enemy even at greater odds.

* On many maps it is possible to rebuild a sentry after it was destroyed very fast due to ammo packs. Especially if the other team uses voice comm, they might still be thinking that "the sentry in the courtyard is down" and run right into your newly created sentry. Slightly moving it to a different location helps as well.

* I tend to destroy my own buildings rather than letting a zapper wear them down if there is no chance of getting there. No point in giving free points to a spy, unless you feel pity for him because you're dominating him the 6th time. Additionally people don't get the 'sentry destroyed' message, meaning they don't know that a particular part of the map is now unprotected.

* Don't put your sentry directly next to someeone elses. They will just overlap the same area, you'll get more assists and less kills and most importantly, any spy or uber combo will have a field day ripping through them while there are multiple people running all over the place to repair. Multiple spread out sentries are much harder to take down by a single uber and spies usually have to travel between them making it easier to identify who the spy is.

Versus Other Classes

Spies

Weirdly enough, of all classes, the spy has the worst odds at succeeding against a good engineer.

* Spies are free points. Seriously. I've played spies for most of the last season and engineer for most of this season. My kpd against spies is something like 30:1. My domination history is full of failed spies. Unless they suicide by taking you out in front of your sentry, they have very bad cards against getting a kill against a good engineer if you keep moving and stay paranoid.

* Play spy. Become good at it. Really good. Learn the routes you take as a spy, the locations where you cloak is running out and you have to recharge and the best ways to take down engineers. Now apply that knowledge as an engineer.

* Hitcheck every team member wielding their primary weapon. Don't shoot once or twice, use up the full shotgun if the situation permits as their health meter often will lag.

* People with your teleporter glow are never spies. Don't annoy them with your shotgun.

* Enemy spies can not be walked through. If you get stuck walking anywhere, immediately spin and start shooting. If you get stuck bumping into a teammate, sidestep and shoot. Get out of knife range.

* Team members that hesitate or stop moving when you move towards them are spies in 90% of the cases. Shoot them. Use VoiceComm to call out class and name of the spy.

* Bad spies go for the sentry first. Your sentry, unless it's in a 'premium spot' defending a vital point is not important. If the spy zaps the sentry, switch to shotgun or wrench and take him down. You can try to repair but usually the spy will win as a zapper can be added in one click but it takes two clicks to remove it. Sometimes repairing and sending a wrench blow toward the spy will do the trick, but in most cases, go after the spy and rebuild the sentry afterwards.

* The revolver is more powerful than your shotgun or handgun at mid to long range. Bad spies try to run or use the knife - shotgun them or quickly unsap your sentry to get it to chunk them. Good spies will draw the revolver - retreat.

* Don't let them lure you away behind a corner. A good spy will try to get you from your sentry and then wait for you with his revolver around the corner.

* Often pretending that you haven't seen the spy allows you to creep up behind him and shoot him close range.

* If you cower behind your sentry or above your dispenser, a good spy can take you out even behind a level 3 sentry and walk away with a few scratches. There aren't many players who can do this reliably, but if you notice it happening, adjust to it. Don't camp behind your gun, keep moving. It increases the odds of bumping into enemy spies and wrench them before they can unloak.

* Your sentry can kill you. Some skilled spies actually decloak behind you to get your own sentry to kill you, especially on corners where they can get away. Never walk between a spy and your sentry while repairing, removing the sapper can often cause your sentry to open fire, killing you.


Soldiers

* Soldiers at mid to long range are mostly harmless. Only their crit rockets pose significant danger, otherwise you can shotgun them to death while they try lobbing rockets at you that are easy to dodge, especially if your sentry prevents them from moving offensively to engage you.

* You have much better speed than they have. Use it to your advantage by maintaining a healthy range.

* Soldiers at short range are deadly. If you get jumped, shotgun and try to get range and hope you'll crit before they get a good shot at you.


Scouts

* Scouts are very dangerous when encountered outside of your sentries range. Direct shootouts with a good scout will lead to death in about 70% of the cases if they use the scatter gun. You can't outrun them, so shotgun and pray. I think most of my deaths are related to running into a stray scout behind the frontlines.

* Scouts can snipe your sentry with their handgun from range with surprising speed and accuracy. Keep repairing and use your handgun or shotgun on them until they have to retreat for health. Do not engage in close combat, they'll own you.


Pyro

* Unless they jump you, pyros are not very dangerous. Walking backwards from them while shotgunning works surprisingly well, especially if they don't switch to shotgun. Walking backwards knowing that your sentry is behind the next corner is even better

* Pyros can circle strafe your level 3 sentry and take it down fast. Don't repair. Get range and unload your shotgun, in 90% of the cases they get the sentry and then die to your shotgun blasts.

* Uber pyros will destroy your sentry and you can't do poop about it. Run. Once the uber wears off, pop down a sentry at range and start shooting at the medic


Demo Man

* A skilled demo man can be annoying, but in 1:1 they're still up against you and your sentry. Get some distance from your sentry, shotgun them and if they don't manage to take down the sentry, run and repair it in between.

* Uber demoman are bad news. Your sentry will be toast, just run.

* Demomen are great allies when you are maintaining a mission critical sentry (such as protecting the cap on Dustbowl). Ask them to put one sticky below your sentry so they can blow it up if you're fighting with a spy zapping it.


Medic

* They can't do anything if you stay within range of your sentry. Period.

* Their bonesaw is bad news, so don't go melee. Their needlegun outdamages your shotgun at point blank range, so engage them from mid range where they have to adjust the falloff for their needles to hit you.


Heavy

* A heavy can not take down your sentry if you keep repairing it, and the sentry will keep most of his bullets from hitting you, so if you have a dispenser, they're gonna run out of ammo faster than you run out of iron.

* Obviously melee is not the brightest of ideas (they take 3-4 wrench hits easily and instant kill you with a single hit most of the time)

* Heavies make great allies if you give them a dispenser. They can keep shooting their minigun, making it all but impossible for spies close in (e.g. in the 2fort courtyard). They also can cover any dead angle that your sentry might have.


Sniper

* Your shotgun beats their MP, but some snipers have vicious close range sniping skills, so keep jumping and shotgun them to death.

* They can take down your sentry with 1-3 shots and you won't outrepair them if nobody goes after them. I usually get distancea nd then blow up my sentry and rebuild it in a safer spot.

* They can headshot you hiding behind your sentry, so use the time they shoot at your sentry to get the hell out of there.

* Snipers are another reason why you want to keep moving all the time. Cowering stationary behind your sentry is like asking for headshots. If you keep moving, they often try to take out the gun first, alerting you that you are exposed.



As an Engineer, don't expect to get to the top of the kill board all the time (it happens, but usually only if one team is very reckless). However, you will end up with a kpd score much higher than anyone else, which is exceptionally handy when in the top50 where you lose about 25 points per death:
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Pyro

- If you're a Pyro and fight an enemy Pyro they will not stay on fire and will not continue to get hurt after you hit them with your flamethrower.

- The pyro's flamethrower makes an effective door blockade. You'll burn a bit of ammo on nothing, unless an enemy gets close - then hes a crispy critter, but no one will want to go through the door way and will give your team a chance to assist/respawn.

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Sniper

- When you're sniping, other players can see your dot, so try and position it on a surface they can't see so they won't be expecting your shot.

- Most of the time aim for the head.

- If you're fully charged, don't aim for the head (except against heavies and soldiers); You'll do enough damage to kill without hitting the head and just increase your chances of missing.

- When counter-sniping move around a lot and then aim for the head after they've fired (Unless you're in a position to charge and wait for them to come out).
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Medic

- Your UberCharge bar fills up faster while healing teammates who are already injured and not maxed out at 150% health.

- You don't have to be looking at your target to be healing them, so watch your back for Spies and enemy flanking maneuvers.

- The needles from your needle-gun drop down fast after being shot so make sure to aim way over your target's head and to lead your target when shooting at them from any kind of length.

- The needle gun costs uber to shoot

- Shooting an enemy doctor with the needle gun will drain his uber (I beleive only if you shoot needles loaded with your own uber)

- You can switch players while uber

- You can conserve some of your uber (after you've started it), by switching weapons. It will start again when you switch back to the heal gun.

- The bone saw is a serious weapon. It has great range and heavy damage.

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Soldier

- To get maximum height out of your rocket jump, crouch-jump almost immediately before you fire the rocket beneath you.

- Anticipate, anticipate, antcipate

- You are weak after you've fired your fourth rocket. Don't put yourself in situations that you're facing multiple enemies and don't have a full reserve.



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Demoman

- Demomen can jump a lot higher than soldiers can with their rocket jumps. Use your sticky bomb, place it on the ground, then run and jump and right click to detonate your bomb and go flying into the air. To explosive-jump properly, you crouch-jump and then detonate.

- When solely defending, place your sticky-bombs where they'll still be effective, but the enemy won't see them. Like around a door frame rather than cluttering on the floor in the doorway.

- Holding down primary fire on the sticky bomb will 'charge' the gun. The longer it's charged, the further the bomb will travel. There is a white bar under the ammo indicator showing the power building.

- An effective strategy is to place sticky bombs in highly visible places. If you are effective at playing the demoman, this will have a very significant demoralizing effect on the other team. People will start to avoid the area at all costs and send a squad of people to deal with you. This is in contradiction with hiding the stickies for defense, but both work well.
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Anti-Spy tips-
-BE A PYRO!! stick close to defenses and unleash bursts of flame at everyone who comes by, you never know.....

-Disguised spies will only be carrying around the primary weapon of the class it is disguised as, if you see an engineer carrying around a shotgun, shoot him, you never know, but dont waste time on the pyro with his axe, or an engie with a wrench.

-Shoot anyone whos suspicious, if you see someone on your team running away from the action take a closer look at where they are going. or if you notice someone behind you who wasn't there before, it may be a spy who just uncloaked.

-If your an engie, shoot everyone! take no chances, your wrench is actually more effective than your shotgun most the time, if your stuff gets sapped, save your sentry first, you can rebuild your dispenser but once you unsap your sentry it'll take care of the pesky spy

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